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Glenn Rodent 5:53 Wed Feb 25
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dealcanvey 5:49 Wed Feb 25

Agreed.

dealcanvey 5:49 Wed Feb 25
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Fact is we are on course for our highest league finish since 2002 and we see fans in there masses screaming for his head.

I would like to see him in charge next season. People just have to get over his arrogance and see that on the pitch we are looking much better. I personally think he will be shown the door and his loyalty to the likes of Nolan and Carroll will be his ultimate downfall. Now our midfield is back to it's best finally maybe we will see what we was seeing at the start of the season.

WHU(Exeter) 5:36 Wed Feb 25
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Yeah, it's a fantastic point.

If Allardyce wears a West Ham scarf everyone will be happy, even bearing in mind that putting on that scarf will lead to us being dead shit afterwards, because of (presumeably) the putting on of the scarf?

The Kronic 5:35 Wed Feb 25
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Glenn Rodent 5:33

Fuck off Rodent you sad, attention seeking loner cunt.

stewie griffin 5:35 Wed Feb 25
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Can't really accuse people of being bed wetters and claim this is our best season since 86 in the next breath.

Takes a certain lack of self awareness

Glenn Rodent 5:33 Wed Feb 25
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He does make a good point about bed wetters...

Alright Kronic?

Willtell 5:29 Wed Feb 25
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Seamouse 4:13 Wed Feb 25
"Personally I woukd keep Allardyce for a year longer and use the OS as the bait for the best manager we can find. There are no truly suitable managers right now of the quality we need..."

Tripe. You have no idea who as a manager could be available. You consistently have supported SA because you're just plain afraid of the possible consequences of change.

WHU(Exeter) 5:24 Wed Feb 25
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Right, so if Sam got a West Ham scarf, everybody would be pleased, but despite it being the same bloke at the helm (plus scarf), our seasons right after would plummet?

You should sit in on the Board meetings.

The Kronic 5:23 Wed Feb 25
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FACT!

David L 5:22 Wed Feb 25
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wd40 sounds like a right wanker doesn't he stewie?

stewie griffin 5:02 Wed Feb 25
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"Best season since 86 ! enjoy? no I didn't think you could. "


Jesus Christ

wd40 4:54 Wed Feb 25
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No doubt Big Sam should just buy a hammers scarf and wear it at every match and t.v interview and state now and that the Westham way is the only way forward
then all you bed wetters would be pleased.about watching a a true Hammers man walking around looking cool in a scarf while the team does sod all season after season after season.

FACT:
Best season since 86 ! enjoy? no I didn't think you could.

Seamouse 4:13 Wed Feb 25
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Personally I woukd keep Allardyce for a year longer and use the OS as the bait for the best manager we can find. There are no truly suitable managers right now of the quality we need. Let's wait and see! Who knows? Abramovich could lose it with Mourinho again yet want to stay in London. Wenger must be close to ending with Arsenal soon, and might fancy one last pay day. Pellegrini could be soon out of a job with Mank City.. All I know is that the next manager of our club has to be the best manager we have ever had

Anybody less - a Lambert or Redknapp or(knowing our owners) a Macleish or a Bruce could be a total disaster

DrTwinHammer 3:59 Wed Feb 25
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It should not matter if someone is more expensive really if it means we are getting a top manager who will make the club a lot more soon anyway by building a proper valuable team so no need to spare any cash on the manager !!!!!!!

Trevor B 3:50 Wed Feb 25
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i think the figure for sam's wages was from when he had a 1m bonus for keeping us up in our first promotion season as part of the second year of his deal. he also had a 1m bonus for promotion but wages were much, much less.

DrTwinHammer 3:46 Wed Feb 25
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whu 12:51 Wed Feb 25

That is an interesting list ! And according to him Benitez and all the below managers would be cheaper than Sam

Stefano Pioli (Lazio)
Vincenzo Montella (Fiorentina)
Paulo Sousa (Basel)
Javi Gracia (Malaga)
Unai Emery (Sevilla)
Nuno Herlander Simões Espírito Santo (Valencia)
Phillip Cocu (PSV)
Frank de Boer (Ajax)
Markus Weinzierl (FC Augsburg)
Jürgen Klopp (Dortmund)
Julen Lopetegui (Porto)
Sérgio Conceição (Braga)
Marco Silva (Sporting CP)
Siniša Mihajlović (Sampdoria)
Slaven Bilić (Besiktas)
Alexander Francis Neil (Norwich)
Slaviša Jokanović (Watford)
Eddie Howe (A.F.C. Bournemouth)
Mark Warburton (Brentford)
Aitor Karanka (Middlesbrough)

Willtell 12:44 Wed Feb 25
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Managers are generally as a breed damned whether they do or don't. That's why they need a thick skin and get £3m a year compensation.

The only ones that shit doesn't stick to are those held in high esteem by their fans. That's one reason why SA should move on this summer...

After8 7:56 Wed Feb 25
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If we are going to start using the individual errors excuse then by the very same token then any goals we scored were by individual errors too and not then caused by Sams tactics and sophistication.

balders 2:52 Wed Feb 25
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Don't think anyone can argue he fucked up on Sunday with the subs.

As for we cant get better that's the thing that pisses me of , we are the 6th biggest net spenders in England over the last 5 years

D&S will invest big in the summer , DeBore , Rafa will come if they are offered a deal.

chim chim cha boo 2:14 Wed Feb 25
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One thing that has so far been overlooked in this debate is that IF putting Cole on and Song dropping back (or whatever the tactics were- I'm still confused) had worked, all we would have heard for the next four or five weeks was about how Allardyce was a tactical genius who could manage any club in the world.

Who would say that? Allardyce of course in just about every interview he ever gave.

Given that fact, it's hardly surprising when a lot of us question his substitutions when he so obviously fucks it up.

As for the 'individual errors' chestnut, as someone else has said on this thread, every goal ever scored since time began is due to an individual error by a player or official. No errors=no goals.

whu 12:51 Wed Feb 25
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not quite getting your 'benitez will want twice that amount' comment terry - c+p from a year ago

1 Pep Guardiola, Bayern Munich, £14.8m
2 Jose Mourinho, Chelsea, £8.37m
3 Marcelo Lippi, Guangzhou, £8.34m
4 Arsene Wenger, Arsenal, £6.89m
5 Fabio Capello, Russia, £6.51m
6 Carlo Ancelotti, Real Madrid, £6.26m
7 David Moyes, Man United, £4.92m
8 Tata Martino, Barcelona, £4.5m
9 Jurgen Klopp, Borussia Dortmund, £3.59m
10 Manuel Pellegrini, Man City, £3.47m
11 Jorge Jesus, Benfica, £3.34m
12 Brendan Rodgers, Liverpool, £3.25m
13 Sam Allardyce, West Ham, £2.95m
13 Roy Hodgson, England, £2.95m
15 Roberto Mancini, Galatasaray, £2.92m
15 Rafa Benitez, Napoli, £2.92m
17 Luciano Spaletti, Zenit, £2.75m
18 Claudio Ranieri, Monaco, £2.5m
18 Laurent Blanc, PSG, £2.5m
18 Antonio Conte, Juventus, £2.5m
18 Cesare Prandelli, Italy, £2.5m
22 Massimiliano Allegri, Milan, £2.34m
23 Felipe Scolari, Brazil, £2.3m
24 Ottmar Hitzfeld, Switzerland, £2.17m
25 Mircea Lucescu, Shakhtar, £2.14m
26 Diego Simeone, Atletico Madrid, £2.09m
26 Harry Redknapp, QPR, £2.09m
26 Joachim Low, Germany, £2.09m
29 Walter Mazzarri, Inter Milan, £2m
30 Vecente del Bosque, Spain, £1.96m

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